tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post7446364632693937164..comments2024-03-19T04:51:17.560+04:00Comments on [MM] Muscat Mutterings: Protesting about protesters.Sythehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09864800112417099664noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-1372802528668527722011-03-29T23:08:38.311+04:002011-03-29T23:08:38.311+04:00Another point to any national who thinks that all ...Another point to any national who thinks that all expats should leave Oman. All other countries have expat workers, and one day you might want to be one too. How will you feel if you find no country will look at you because your own country has closed its borders. <br />How many tourists would want to visit such a place. How many foreign companies would want to invest in such a country. And beware, even your own companies might start outsourcing jobs to foreign lands. <br />This is a global world and you need to have an international outlook. Your ambition should be to be amongst the best in the world, not just the best in Oman.<br />Confused of MuscatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-12186267919461481042011-03-29T22:52:34.309+04:002011-03-29T22:52:34.309+04:00IN the West it's the norm for middle class stu...IN the West it's the norm for middle class students from wealthy families to take menial jobs like hotel cleaning, construction and so on through school and university to fund their living expenses and college fees. When they graduate after four or five years of hard work, they know they will start on a lowly graduate trainee salary because it takes plenty of experience on the job before they become of any value to their employer. Anyone who's been through this system knows that the world doesn't owe them a living. <br />It's pretty telling that very few Omanis are complaining about the lowly paid, unskilled expats doing domestic and labouring work taking 'their' jobs; just the professional and technical staff who have spent many long years of hard work and little pay in the beginning to get the level of expertise they have.<br />If you do get rid of all the expats, who do you think you are going to manage, each other? If your skills are so useful, why don't you apply for work abroad too? Most youngsters around the world jump at the chance to work or study outside their country for the fun and the insight it gives them into the world outside. Hard work, but well worth it. <br />Confused of MuscatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-32795545544105702462011-03-27T16:02:06.430+04:002011-03-27T16:02:06.430+04:00to the anonymous above specially,
1st, i dont thi...to the anonymous above specially, <br />1st, i dont think that all the studnets in ur class u r teaching are lazy and not interested to learn unless if they see that the teacher or lecturer doesnt know how to teach or deliver the information correctly to the student.<br />2nd thing i'd like to tell you that the sector which got u to teach ppl cuz some of the colleges bring teachers which are paid less just to show that they have teachers and lectureres eg. indians.<br />3rd we need some expats to leave NOT ALL and here we mean the useless whom are paid thousands and doing nothing. regarding cleaners..etc we do have some Omanis, but for the time been we want all Omanis to get better jobs. and leave these jobs for some expats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-88460645844819881382011-03-26T23:12:33.106+04:002011-03-26T23:12:33.106+04:00Expats stop blaming the Omanis and Omanis stop bla...Expats stop blaming the Omanis and Omanis stop blaming the expats...<br /><br />Blame the system and the people who ran it...<br /><br />They Intentionally distructed the development of youth, Legally killing the national health services and many more! <br /><br />The big big bang is yet to come! <br /><br />I guess Oman needs dig deep into the system and find a solution ASAP...<br /><br />Accountability & Taxation is the only way forward<br /><br />No, Im not pro democracy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-3133277930069699752011-03-25T23:29:31.401+04:002011-03-25T23:29:31.401+04:00Hey guys!
Why is there so much negativism to expat...Hey guys!<br />Why is there so much negativism to expats? All I see here is from Omanis is screaming about expats stealing their jobs. If the country doesn't need us why does it invite us to work for you? :)))<br />The second point is, I teach here in Muscat in one of the colleges and hmmm, never in my life I've seen so many arrogant, lazy and apathetic people in one place. All that these guys want is a certificate (not knowledge) and, yes, well-paid jobs after graduation. Every semester I have to spend at least two weeks just to arouse their interest to the subject I teach. I'm not talking about everyone, but about majority, unfortunately. <br />And guys, if you need all expats to leave, why don't you also start doing such jobs as cleaners, baby-sitters, construction workers as well? <br />I didn't really mean to offend Omanis, not actually. I've met different people: hard-working, well-educated, doing their best and it's real pleasure to work with them. Although what I wanted to pay attention to is young people's development. The most important thing is to teach kids to learn, set the goals and achieve them, but not to live only for demanding their rights without realizing what they are. Do you understand what I mean? <br />To the anonymous above - guys, stop being hysterical and start working with no excuses. You will see how things will change :))) Good-luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-56051940076090349522011-03-24T09:07:14.174+04:002011-03-24T09:07:14.174+04:00Agree with above, omanis are capable and hardworki...Agree with above, omanis are capable and hardworking- see banks, omantel, Nawras, OXy, PDO, etc,etc with high percentage of omanisation. In PDO it is proven that omanis are better in delivering projects better then their expatriate counterparts including Shell expatriates. Major oil and gas projects delivey speak for themselves. So what really made the difference is proper training on the job, and succession planning.<br />The worst part of some of above organisations have now become dumping yard regional including western direct hire. <br />I also agree with above muscatconfidential website has no love for omanis but it is place where expatriates lauch their insulting missiles to people who have accepted and welcomed them to their country. Lets hope that this gentleman does not come back again in this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-40866063531231002902011-03-23T20:48:15.561+04:002011-03-23T20:48:15.561+04:00Lets start with private large enterprises typical ...Lets start with private large enterprises typical occidental/PDO petroleum service contractors and government should put a specific contractual quote on omanisation which should developing and employing omanis on the jobs. What frustrates younger omani generation of being treated third class citizens in their own country. Most of the the above mentioned contractors are owned indirectly by top omani ellites and unfortunately against omanisation including expatriates employed by them. And in return they insult omanis of being lazy - see rubbish put on muscat confidential site. This is typical courtesy of expatriates to be paid pay back to omanis for being generous and friendly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-6768048952350438742011-03-23T14:47:51.412+04:002011-03-23T14:47:51.412+04:00to the person who said this comment (education, ed...to the person who said this comment (education, education, education! I can kind of understand Omanis why they are frustrated, seeing the white expats making the big money....you will not be able to feed your 6+ children)<br />first of all id like to tell u we have well educated ppl more than yourself who are ready to develope their country bcuz they love it.<br />2nd thing, since we are able to feed ppl like 'YOU' .. offcourse we are able to feed our 6+ kids... <br />seems you are disapointed to loose the facilities which our country gives u...."ohh poor"<br /><br />simply i would like to say specially to you and everyone who is thiking like YOU "GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY WE DONT NEED YOU" <br />you was not working for free "this if u were working honestly" :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-40064553442318764512011-03-23T14:28:51.734+04:002011-03-23T14:28:51.734+04:00JUST COMMENTS TO THE ABOVE......
DO YOU THANK THA...JUST COMMENTS TO THE ABOVE...... <br />DO YOU THANK THAT ALL OMANIS ARE NOT WORKING OR WE CANT FEED OUR 6+ CHILDRAN, WE ARE FEEDDING YOU POEPLE FOR LONG TIME I THINK THAT WE COULD MANAG. DONT WARRY.. THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IS LEFT FOR YOU AND POEPLE WHO HAVE YOUR MINTALITY AND THINKING. <br />ABOUT DEGREE, DO YOU HAVE DEGREE?? AND WHAT IS YOUR SALARY?? WHERE DO YOU WORK.. I HAVE DEGREE AND 10+ YEARS OF EXPR.. AND WHAT EVER IN YOU MIND AND I HAVE WORKED IN ALL LEVELS SO DONT EVER MAKE THIS COMMENT GENRAL.. <br />DEAR.. IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU ARE BETTER THEN POEPLE YOU ARE WORKING WITH THAN I ADVCIE YOU TO GO BACK BEFORE THEY THROUGH YOU OUT..<br />OMANIS ARE HARD WORKING... AND I'M ONE OF THEM...:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-33192301683429360992011-03-23T14:24:42.616+04:002011-03-23T14:24:42.616+04:00well i see from the comments above that expats sta...well i see from the comments above that expats started to worry about to loose their jobs in Oman! :)<br />i think its the time for the expats to leave our country around. 80% "if not more" of the expats we dont need them. they are doing the same jobs which an omani is doing and sometimes even less. but they are earning triple of Omani's salary. <br />this money is the right of omanis not others. the expats are coming here they have everything (high salary + house + health insurance + free of tax + secure life) which most of these facilities they can NOT find in their home town. almost nowadays we need expats in following (house maids, builders, cleaners) but not in a higher position unless they work as much they are paid for. <br />about blue collar - indian said... really iam thinking how much ur salay in ur county???? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-60571448859115570772011-03-23T14:15:53.926+04:002011-03-23T14:15:53.926+04:00All, with all due respect to all whom have posted ...All, with all due respect to all whom have posted their comments in this web, first we are talking about Omanis that they are not doing anything and they want to get free money..... which is wrong in my view. we have expats that been working in Oman for long time and been respected so much that we couldn’t feel the difference between us. I would say this word to all whom are in Oman and criticizing Omanis for asking for the basic rights in their own place, we swat to get our salaries. I'm working in PDO and we face this on day to day basis, if we say that expect have added any value and they have real degrees and sold work experience that why you don’t stick to your countries and why do you come to Oman?? and you are the one who have applied for the job?? I have so many friends Omanis and expects and I will not accept that any one of them disrespect me or Oman in any point of my life. and if you feel that the expects can EARN MORE MONEY in continues then with all pleasure go back why you are still here???<br />I think we need to change the way we deal with you guys so we can show that we are not less than anyone who have degree or what so ever.. we have studies outside Oman and been to all over the world.. so please stop the comments that you are writing which is showing the Omanis as devils and you as angles.<br />I have strong believe, Oman will still go-on even if all expects went back Home….. (Bye bye)>…..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-10698887760498601242011-03-23T10:03:06.078+04:002011-03-23T10:03:06.078+04:00Le Fin
PDO employees didnt protest because of the...Le Fin<br /><br />PDO employees didnt protest because of the salary for your information. The employees had a list of issues that the company has been facing for the past years. thats why the Minister of oil & gas was called to attend a quick meeting with the employees. And about this sentense(---a lot of those guys make thousands of rials a month---) are you sure of these information???? I work for PDO and i know what was going on inside the company so please"Stop cascading wrong information".<br /> <br />Blue Collar:<br /><br />About your comment. i wounder if you can get this money while working in ur country.<br /><br />With respect:<br />The ThrillerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-40249897574599143882011-03-22T23:37:39.209+04:002011-03-22T23:37:39.209+04:00It is amazing to read these comments where people...It is amazing to read these comments where people dare to speak the truth, truely the new world has emerged, fear has died Oman being part it has not been saved the tides of the changes brought the blessing in the country. What was thought to be imposible became possible in the blink of time. This are positive changes, it blessing to us as those ministers who were left unaccountable swayed away overight by the tide of changes. They thought that the ministries were their personal gardens, they were the real thugs of this country sucking the economy left hand right. Oman could have developed three to four time ahead if these guys were having good intention. They should not be left for more than four to five years in the office even if a minister has got a golden brain. With this changes it is merely a matter of time accountability will take its seat and things will to get its right direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-17506755027371257632011-03-22T10:26:32.596+04:002011-03-22T10:26:32.596+04:00To be honest, i agree with the opinions posted con...To be honest, i agree with the opinions posted concerning the cliche lazy omani "texting and talking to friends". Every hotel, shopping mall, whatever, you go to, you see expats working, and omanis socialising. and then they are surprised if they dont get a promotion for sitting around all day and letting expats do the work for them. if omanis dont wake up and realise that just being a national doesnt entitle them to the good life they have always dreamed of, they will have to move to qatar to become labourers there, seeing as qatar is rich enough to pay its nationals to be lazy. oman isnt, deal with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-79347034365199006002011-03-21T20:34:13.164+04:002011-03-21T20:34:13.164+04:00To all those saying that the population is not an ...To all those saying that the population is not an issue.. 40% of the Omani population is below the age of 15!! How is that not an issue.. You are kidding yourself when you say that there are plenty of resources when doing physical labour jobs is not an option. <br /><br />Are we better than all of the developed countries? Better than the US, Britian, European countries, Japan..etc!!!Omanianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-20349070086425976752011-03-21T19:56:35.146+04:002011-03-21T19:56:35.146+04:00As an Omani...
I would not like to see Omani'...As an Omani...<br /><br />I would not like to see Omani's sweeping or maids etc I would rather enhance their skills. Since we have plenty of resources.<br /><br />The basic education system is designed to push out students out of the door after 12 years of attendance, there is no quality assurance or guidance (consultation) a very Egyptian style...<br /><br />Schools need to teach student discipline and work ethics, parents need to manage their kids agendas rather than shouting and scare the he'll out of kids etc...to tell you the truth I feel kid hate to see parents!<br /><br />I don't think we have a problem with expat and their packages. However we don't like to see their have more perks then their equal grade Omani colleagues<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Vocational training is non-existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-53074617816350241402011-03-21T16:20:23.776+04:002011-03-21T16:20:23.776+04:00Well said. The demands are growing. Imagine studen...Well said. The demands are growing. Imagine students demands like low marks for passing, less timing less subject s lesser you study lesser competitive you will be. Seriously it's time to stop all these nonsense demands and get back to work. Even genuine demands also heard and partially met I feel and please give them some time to deliver. And btw there are 300000. Unemployed registered who can be employed replacing the blue color jobs done by Asian expats anytime and 50000 jobs announced by HMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-61841385077105937642011-03-20T23:23:36.727+04:002011-03-20T23:23:36.727+04:00amen to that.amen to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-36321959619360390602011-03-20T13:15:16.625+04:002011-03-20T13:15:16.625+04:00education, education, education! I can kind of und...education, education, education! I can kind of understand Omanis why they are frustrated, seeing the white expats making the big money (thats all they see) but they lack the complex view... these white expats are not being paid for sitting idly and texting their friends, they in most cases have university degrees from REAL universities, 10+ years of experience in an competetive enviroment where you have to deserve your job and be good at it, they have to live in this sh*it hole with total lack of facilities, nowhere to go for a simple walk or cycling etc. <br />Omanis, can you please wake up and spend some time on checking how it works in real world? Because as it was stated, you are not oil rich and sooner or later you will have to compete and you want to be ready for it or you will not be able to feed your 6+ children.<br />You need PROPER education not just a worthless piece of paper with no knowledge. You need experience before you can be managers. If you dont have the mental capacity to be a manager or pass a real university well then your going to be a construction worker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-8101267228823237082011-03-20T12:03:18.318+04:002011-03-20T12:03:18.318+04:00I'm wondering what the worth of "access t...I'm wondering what the worth of "access to more higher education" would be when the students at Sohar University are protesting for the GPA to be abolished. The students wanting this are the students that have failed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-85132601102190368422011-03-20T11:11:34.685+04:002011-03-20T11:11:34.685+04:00Thanks for the comments everyone, I always like to...Thanks for the comments everyone, I always like to see peoples comments!<br /><br />Ashraf: Absolutely - more access to higher education is needed here, but also an acceptance that not every single national boy and girl has the intelligence required to take all these "top" jobs.<br /><br />I still stand by my observation that there are jobs available here, it's just that many Omani's do not want to do them: labouring, road sweeping, gardening, etc. <br /><br />People often comment to me that they "need a maid" to which I almost always think to myself - why? Why must a family employ a full time live-in maid? The most common answers I get are that the houses are big, and there are many children. And now people are complaining about the cost of living? <br /><br />It should be considered that people are living beyond their means.Sythehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09864800112417099664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-25302414453231457762011-03-20T10:36:20.534+04:002011-03-20T10:36:20.534+04:00Ashraf. Your point about the number of school leav...Ashraf. Your point about the number of school leavers is well made. But of course not all school leavers need to go to university. A school education should provide enough skills for people to enter the job market doing jobs that don't require a college education. This is fundamental to all economies. However if the expectation of those job seekers (as well as college educated ones) is above their academic and ability level then frankly the economy is doomed. Not everyone can be a manager. <br /><br />And as Sythe says, the issue is not what the exam certificate says, it's what it represents. If it says you are an engineer but you can't tell a spanner from a trifle then what it represents is a credibility gap. Multiply this across the academic and employment system and again, the economy is doomed.<br /><br />But it doesn't have to be this way....Hazchemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-67563668268438675592011-03-19T20:32:50.789+04:002011-03-19T20:32:50.789+04:00Change Mentality!
You're designed that way by...Change Mentality!<br /><br />You're designed that way by the strategist...According to them there is nothing wrong with the system nor the way your mentality is...<br /><br />I would classify this as social oppression that went well for a while. Now its firing back!<br /><br />Surely HM has been getting false reports about the progress of Oman and its nation...<br /><br /><br />After all freedom of expression is new in my country. I wonder how suppressed it? HM or the People under him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-52463092719869895712011-03-19T20:19:03.076+04:002011-03-19T20:19:03.076+04:00The rat hole we are in right knaw has alot to do w...The rat hole we are in right knaw has alot to do with the Oman's Sociology, where us bieng a petro- nations we have long taken evrything for granted. The only root solution to this mess is to change Oman's youths mentality, do that and well land on the moon in no time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2368053937631641478.post-36968015799742192352011-03-19T20:16:49.840+04:002011-03-19T20:16:49.840+04:00Stop making children?!!! Good Point on a low intel...Stop making children?!!! Good Point on a low intellectual level.<br /><br />Population is not an issue... <br /><br />Perhaps the best solution is to bring in independent forensic accountants to dig deep into the national expenditure and find discrepencies...<br /><br />I stongly believe the money spent on developing Oman is less than whats been pocketed since 70's!<br /><br />After all whats going to happen now after all these cabinet re-shuffle? Nothing (An Opinion)<br /><br />New policies will be drafted to plaster here and there...This will keep people silent for a while. 8 years from now (Next Economical Downfall)Protestor will come in with a BANG!!!<br /><br />After all, we're shall not forget who we are!!!<br /><br />Egoistic, Rebellious, Manipulators,Control Freaks...Garnished with Blaming Culture! <br /><br />Sorry My fellow citizens. I guess we need to identify ourselves before we proceed...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com